Zig-Zag Marble Gate Completed

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The devil is in the details of the Zig-Zag! The new Marble Gate for the Marble Machine X is completed and it works perfectly! Check out the livestreams from the cadding here:
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Kommentarer
JR DaCapo
JR DaCapo 6 dager siden
0:06 What a great drum fill !!
Lapin Logic
Lapin Logic 16 dager siden
ooOOOooOOOOO I am the projection of Martin from the Future and I am here to say this will be in the bin in a month along side 2 other improvements oooOOhHhhwwwwooOOoOOooo
Eluem
Eluem 16 dager siden
Me: You solved it, yay!!! You: Perhaps not 13:12 Me: DO THAT ONE!
Alvaro Martin Villegas
Alvaro Martin Villegas Måned siden
The preasure gates may be the perfect compact solution, but the marbles tracks looked so fucking sick. I know making the design for the vibrofone tracks would have been a nightmare but the design in the kickdrum tracks was lowkey the coolest engineered part in the MMX but it´s understandable for the efectivity of the gates.
Hugo van Dam
Hugo van Dam Måned siden
0:00 when you remove one line from your code:
Peter Davis
Peter Davis Måned siden
This didn’t age well :)
Ever Enigmatic
Ever Enigmatic Måned siden
I might come back in episode #874, when it's close to getting finished.
Ian Ferguson
Ian Ferguson Måned siden
WE WANT MUSIC
devjock
devjock Måned siden
"coolest plywood parts I've ever made" cue Dexter's Lab "This is my greatest invention!"
Elena9 Ivanova
Elena9 Ivanova Måned siden
[The software system is included on the "Eli Machine"]
SlowBird
SlowBird Måned siden
I was already a fan but you mentioned starship and you're clearly a fan as am I. Double liked and subscribed ahaha! I want to come bike there someday. Maybe you can guide for a Mediterranean bike trip.
Dave DiAngelo
Dave DiAngelo Måned siden
Have you considered making those gates out of acrylic instead of birch ply? Once you have a final working design, you can mill the parts in acrylic and assemble them the same way. That would give you some pretty cool visibility to the marbles. Might be worth a half-day effort to build one and test it out. Keep up the amazing work, Martin...I'm loving every second of it.
Tomm J
Tomm J Måned siden
5 days later and this design already feels like ancient history ^_^
Fab Funty
Fab Funty Måned siden
Less pressure is always good. When does the MMX world tour start ? 🤣
seeni gzty
seeni gzty Måned siden
Martin: "perhaps not" Everyone: Face palm
Yann Jup
Yann Jup Måned siden
Please increase the length of the guide screw, otherwise a lateral movement will prevent the moving piece of wood from returning. also, you should limit the friction of the screw thread on the wood, as this will cause rapid wear of the wood, and allow unwanted lateral movement. you can for example screw on the metal thread a small aquarium bubbler pipes of the right diameter (use following if your screw is M5 diameter. www.zoomalia.com/animalerie/tuyau-a-air-en-silicone-pour-pompe-d-aquarium-2-5-m-4-6-p-4328.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAhP2BBhDdARIsAJEzXlHYpbVe5dCZ3ajt3MO6pcPNu_tBieY9cDGju_6xfUrkFfC22j40NNUaAoW2EALw_wcB#l15447 Bon courage !!!
seeni gzty
seeni gzty Måned siden
Machine these gates out of acrylic!!! More visibility, less friction and those nerds with objections against threads in plywood will have to shut up!!!
Todd Hedenstrom
Todd Hedenstrom Måned siden
If you'd like to see the marbles better, why not use a clear material like lucite instead of plywood?
Mattisx
Mattisx Måned siden
If you really wanted to see the marbles, couldn't you use acrylic or fiberglass in some places instead of wood?
Adnan Al-Alim
Adnan Al-Alim Måned siden
Martin, now is the time to (re)apply for Dear Moon! We want to see you floating in space! 🌚 🌍 🚀 🌞
nitroad shadow
nitroad shadow Måned siden
You could CNC gate out of acrylic if you want to make the marbles and the mechanism more visible. Though you would have to sand and polish the parts (if you want to polish large and awkward areas of plastic i would recommend a rag and some Polishing compound).
rolands50
rolands50 Måned siden
How about auctioning-off some of the obsolete/superseded parts? I'm sure there would be a lot of people out there who'd love to own a piece of the MMX! :-)
Robert W.
Robert W. Måned siden
So, will ask the same question again, for the sixth time, in the hope I'll get an answer this time. Once The MMX has been completed, how realistically transportable (for gigs) will it be? What time frame are you planning for disassembly and reassembly on stage?
David Jones
David Jones Måned siden
You should ask your questions in the discord if you expect legitimate and fast answers. The answer to this question is: the MMX will not tour, it is the studio machine for music development and composing. The touring machine is planned to be "the next iteration" which is in active design by the CAD Team. MM was the proof of concept, MMX is the prototype, and "MMY" (as it is known) is the full v1 for touring. I'm sure you can get more info in the discord by people actually working on the machine.
Franco Bartolabac
Franco Bartolabac Måned siden
Heyo Martin! Any plans to get to #dearmoon? It's been years since you made that video!
Joakim Larsson
Joakim Larsson Måned siden
The design is definitely sound! If you want to add some "visual effects" you could make the middle part (the "gate") from acrylic or another transparent plastic.
Gun Face
Gun Face Måned siden
Dude 4 daaayyysss. I was loving the daily updates.
bouytt guyt
bouytt guyt Måned siden
"Perhaps not" Oh f*ck
Hans Milling
Hans Milling Måned siden
Imagine if the whole world worked together on problem solving, from cars, wind turbines, bikes, mars rockets and lots of future technology, like you do with the community. We would create awesome machines and other stuff.
Deba Kumar Dutta
Deba Kumar Dutta Måned siden
When will be your marble machine x be completed?
Fabian Isell
Fabian Isell Måned siden
Where is the Daily update?
bouytt guyt
bouytt guyt Måned siden
out.
Revvek
Revvek Måned siden
Ooooo clockwork marble gates. Engineering new things for yourself can be like baking, it’s done when it’s brown, not when the timer goes off.
aiRCoft
aiRCoft Måned siden
Wilson's proud of you.
TVD Dico
TVD Dico Måned siden
Cant you make that part from a Transparent material?
NGC1433
NGC1433 Måned siden
Machine these gates out of acrylic!!! More visibility, less friction and those nerds with objections against threads in plywood will have to shut up!!!
Ben Brocas
Ben Brocas Måned siden
"I know Cad-Fu"
Top Cat
Top Cat Måned siden
This is "still" not complete? Geeze! :O
Mal-2 KSC
Mal-2 KSC Måned siden
What if you made the pieces of the pressure gate that face the audience out of acrylic instead of wood? Then you'd have dimensional stability _and_ be able to see the marbles, and with the slots in the sides it wouldn't even be that hard to get a cleaning stick in there when the graphite gets stuck to the inside.
James the Flames
James the Flames Måned siden
I haven’t been here in 5 months and my birthday was two days ago. I just wanted to see how you’re doing.
Benjamin Shropshire
Benjamin Shropshire Måned siden
It's kind of interesting watching this and @SVSeeker at the same time. Way different outlook on the design process, timelines and getting things *done*. Not that either is right or wrong, that's up to the person building the thing, but it's interesting seeing different talented and intelligent people coming to different conclusions.
TigerZero aka Allen
TigerZero aka Allen Måned siden
Here's a thought. I'll add. I have no schooling in materials that can be machined. Wood/metal, obviously. But what about rock? It keep in line with the organic look. I would think there is a Rock that is soft enough to be CNCed and out last the Plywood? Plus it might be an expensive material, but we fans keep sending funds to this work. With the right cutting bit that CNC can cut metal. Isn't there a bit that can cut rock? It would give a nice aesthetic look to the parts design using rock, assuming it was with proper funding and possible to do so.
Frank D
Frank D Måned siden
y'all got anymore of them... build videos?
Alex H
Alex H Måned siden
My humble advice would be if these gates work well, finish the MMX with them. The whole purpose of the subassemblies is to be able to change them later if you think of a better solution to the problem. One easy way would be to machine the same parts just out of acrylic instead of plywood.
Eriochrom
Eriochrom Måned siden
Maybe a silly question answered many times before, but: Why are there still those grooves in the center screw of those sliding parts? Won't they tare on the marbles, plus creating much more noise than using smooth metal rods with only grooves where they have to bite into the wood?
A History of Bad Men
A History of Bad Men Måned siden
The finished gate is a thing of beauty. Seeing the way it works, fulfilling its function perfectly, is a thing of beauty. The marbles can still be seen, and are so visible on so much of the journey. Don't mess with it. It's an engineering work of art.
Matt in the Hat
Matt in the Hat Måned siden
Make the slides out of acrylic so you can see the marbles through it. That should give you the visuals you need. The guys that made the conveyor should be able to knock them out.
IDEAL ALENTEJANO
IDEAL ALENTEJANO Måned siden
5 * * * * *
Kevin Berisso
Kevin Berisso Måned siden
Hey Martin - I believe... In fact I believe so much that you have inspired me to try and develop a robotic marble machine - nopost.info/throw/vrW3lG7XuHl0pNk/video. Keep up the great work.
Collin Douglas
Collin Douglas Måned siden
0:19 marble machine does EDM
Jamie
Jamie Måned siden
I love how he compared streaming to the matrix
Kancelas
Kancelas Måned siden
You should cover the area you'll be cutting with painter's tape, because it will prevent the wood from blowout and cut down on post-processing time since you don't have to sand the parts so thoroughly or at all.
o
o Måned siden
Zig-Zag Marble Gate SOOOO YESTERDAY do CLOCKWORK marble gates XD
Frédéric Induni
Frédéric Induni Måned siden
Still waiting for the constant radius divider...
Mauro Abidal Carrer
Mauro Abidal Carrer Måned siden
I'm sure a lot of perople already said that...... but why dont you 3D print the zig zag gates ? you probably can get get them one a lot faster with no/verty few post processing
Ben Jackson
Ben Jackson Måned siden
looks great, only concern is how long until Martin is complaining about the sound
Michael Hildebrandt
Michael Hildebrandt Måned siden
It will be interesting to see how you fix the problem with the height of the marble in the marble divider. How can you set the marble height with this new cates?
Martin Allfrey
Martin Allfrey Måned siden
13.12 no way Martin. ply wood , please, its not a CLOCK!
Francois Faucon
Francois Faucon Måned siden
As we say in french : "On ne peut pas avoir le beurre, l'argent du beurre et le cul de la crémière". What a beautifull language
Halex
Halex Måned siden
13:11 That new design looks very cool but I just want to remind you that the best engineered solution is the one with the fewest moving parts. Less spots it can break.
Jurjen Bos
Jurjen Bos Måned siden
A video with cat and CAD. Let's see what the NOpost algorithm makes of that.
The Humphreys
The Humphreys Måned siden
Martin, I need to know what wrench you're using. I love the swivel head, and I've been coveting it for a while
Milo Szecket
Milo Szecket Måned siden
the custom-design-for-each-channel idea looked incredibly cool ngl but so does this, so
Milo Szecket
Milo Szecket Måned siden
13:05 if you make em all out of acrylic like the salmon ladder you'll be able to see the marbles >:)
Max
Max Måned siden
You make me nervious Martyn holding that gate open lol, was like "nooooooo it stuck :'( " and then you let go of the handle lol
Everett Troya
Everett Troya Måned siden
Could you make the gates out of acrylic? Will probably have less friction thought. But would be less susceptible to erosion. (Not sure if the marbles erode the plywood much or not)
peccantis
peccantis Måned siden
That massive squeak from the gate is worrisome.
riski fadilah
riski fadilah Måned siden
saya dari indonesia alat musiknya bagus banget
Frogz
Frogz Måned siden
i was there! like this comment and reply if you were awake at 5-6 am too :D
Michael Wilkinson
Michael Wilkinson Måned siden
is there a reason u dont use a different material to reduce sticking, then u can push the pressure reduction further?
Paladin Entertainment
Paladin Entertainment Måned siden
26,316~ marbles per channel to test 1,000,000 marbles
CUNHA FIX IT
CUNHA FIX IT Måned siden
Could you make part of it from plexiglass instead of plywood? Then you could see the marbles.
Greg Fraser
Greg Fraser Måned siden
8:06 for some silly reason, I'm now envisioning a hidden lever that Martin can pull as a grande finale to an epic show, which would instantly self-disintegrate the whole MMX and in the process creates one last chaotic yet fitting soundscape of marbles falling out of the machine. The MMX-equivalent of smashing a guitar on stage.
George Magnum
George Magnum Måned siden
Martin, been following you since MM 1 video (hard to believe it was so long ago), and since then, been very much getting into the Wintergatan music library. Not only are you an innovative engineer, you’re a brilliant musician. Love that wheel design, but if the zig zags are going to work and help you get back to writing songs for a completed MMX, I think you need to just bite the bullet and do it (for now). The only things I know about design/engineering are basically from your videos. Might as well go with this now and then see about upgrading in the future to a cooler looking design
Abomination
Abomination Måned siden
Snare at the beginning: *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam* *bam*
Cobalt27
Cobalt27 Måned siden
*drums intensifie*
Peter Kelley
Peter Kelley Måned siden
Another mole down ... I wonder which Mole is next? For a lot of weeks you've been working on sound reduction the noise of the machine, but with these pathways you've lost a lot of that sound reduction.
Peter Kelley
Peter Kelley Måned siden
In three days he trashes this idea for a clockworks version.
Mike Bellman
Mike Bellman Måned siden
What about anodizing / coloring some of the metal balls to create some color and visualization? I don’t think you’d like to drill light assemblies into your perfect wood pieces, it you could add small fiber optics which leak a little bit of light inside the tracks by drilling toy holes. It would complicate the assembly though. Cheers.
Kashi Gorton
Kashi Gorton Måned siden
Martin your laptop is going to be so unhappy when it’s full of sawdust 😓😓😓
Screen Writer Guy
Screen Writer Guy Måned siden
0:03 Neil Peart wants to know where you live
TheN30M
TheN30M Måned siden
Hey martin look at my sandwitch desig in discord its more open and has the same function
Mike Schwirian
Mike Schwirian Måned siden
You do not need to ever finish. Rebuild the gates 300 times? I’m going to watch every minute. You and the build are why I’m here. I love the process- you ever finish, I’ll absolutely come and watch you on tour! But that’s not what brings me back each time you post a video. And if you DO finish this project, I hope you’ll start another so I can watch it too. Please.
Elijah Silvis
Elijah Silvis Måned siden
This guy is a little crazy, but I want him to succeed.
Daniel Lambden
Daniel Lambden Måned siden
13:11 ok so hear me out here... A different modular marble dropper design for each instrument. Some level of compromise between form and function
Create Inside
Create Inside Måned siden
what software do you use to programm the 3d models?
Mr. Gnome
Mr. Gnome Måned siden
cant wait for the next version of the marble gates in 3 weeks 😂
Stan yo bro
Stan yo bro Måned siden
232k views in one day. Shows that there are lots of people who like seeing a mechanical genius at work rather than the usual garbage on NOpost. Keep up the great work.
Ukobold
Ukobold Måned siden
Wondering what you’re doing then getting answers is such a pleasure in these confined times ! And we’ll be the ones who will know - until you find a way for the eleventh hour watchers to see the marbles deal with gravity ! Thanks for your anticovid spleen marble pills !
tomix1024
tomix1024 Måned siden
"You can't use it that way, that's not now it's meant to be used" is the little brother of "We've always done it that way" and "We've never done it that way"...
doug723
doug723 Måned siden
NASA shirt? You've lost your marbles....
Kenneth Due
Kenneth Due Måned siden
if you drill the holes in the plywood, and 'reinforce' the holes with cyanoakryolate glue (10sec glue) before tapping them, it will be much much stronger threads
Larison Johnson
Larison Johnson Måned siden
I read a story, long ago, titled “Shoot the Engineer”. The gist was that an engineer would never complete a design activity on his own. The engineer would always want to go back and make it better. The only way a design would ever be finished, not perfected, was when a manager figuratively “Shot” the Engineer, signaling the design was good enough. But I’m an engineer , so I love this content, keep up the great work!
Dave Anderson
Dave Anderson Måned siden
Make it out of clear acrylic instead of wood.
Alex Fiet
Alex Fiet Måned siden
With this modular design, Martin will be able to make some spares for his world tour.
Baldur Vizla
Baldur Vizla Måned siden
Use inserts in the wood
Ariki Ereso
Ariki Ereso Måned siden
Hey have to ask are you an engineer of some form?
Paul Houx
Paul Houx Måned siden
Centuries from now, archeologists will visit the site where the Marble Machine was produced and find thousands of round metal objects. What explanation, do you think, will they come up with? Knowing archeologists... probably something with Gods and fertility.
Collin
Collin Måned siden
It’s been summer in Florida for a while now.
Xaracen
Xaracen Måned siden
your wood dust computer is terrifying. its becoming a fire hazard
Jethro Q. Walrustitty
Jethro Q. Walrustitty Måned siden
I love that short atonal avant-garde piece at 0:00!
Ferchhumer
Ferchhumer Måned siden
How long will it take to finish...
CptBirdon
CptBirdon Måned siden
Experimental jazz be like 0:02
avinalaughmate
avinalaughmate Måned siden
perhaps not moment....ffs
antell markus
antell markus Måned siden
How about using teflon paint on your parts.
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